tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1966268702453044660.post6195655212163388190..comments2024-02-29T00:38:48.299-08:00Comments on Sand, Cider and Spaceships: Eve as an eSport?Drackarnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13450640948811964177noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1966268702453044660.post-6731966575605970762014-08-24T18:57:24.726-07:002014-08-24T18:57:24.726-07:00They shouldn't even try to make EVE more inter...They shouldn't even try to make EVE more interesting visually. What they should do is multiply the ranges and vocities for everything by 1000 (meters become kilometers) so that we aren't stuck with internet spaceships that are too slow to even orbit a planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1966268702453044660.post-32502033757471380462014-08-19T17:19:02.495-07:002014-08-19T17:19:02.495-07:00Gotta love it ... from the leadership to the front...Gotta love it ... from the leadership to the front line griefers :<br /><br />James315 for CSM - QUIT<br />Erotica1 for CSM - QUIT<br />CODE enters AT - QUIT<br /><br />Chicken Out Deny Everything (CODE) ... what a policyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1966268702453044660.post-75305677028783341202014-08-19T07:40:47.665-07:002014-08-19T07:40:47.665-07:00The use of visuals and 3d-model versions has been ...The use of visuals and 3d-model versions has been acceptably done for America's cup where the use of multiple live cameras coupled with computer overlays and a separate 3d-model view to provide strategic information.<br /><br />For the AT, we have a main camera that follows a single ship at a time, commentators who have some additional views, their own knowledge and and those actually very useful bars at the bottom. Also a 3d display which is less useful.<br /><br />An EvE battle of 24 ships plus drones has a lot more going on at one time than an America's Match race. TV coverage of the match racing covers a great deal of what is going on, but even still does not cover the whole.<br /><br />Plus, the matches are only 10 mins, which is not much time to do analysis of what is going on at the same time as showing it off. During the match races, there are times of low dynamic change (long tacks), where replays, other camera views, 3d model views etc. are used to call attention to the finer points and demonstrating the skill of the sailors. The current AT format is simply too fast to do this during the match.<br /><br />Other stop-start sports (American/Canadian football, basketball, baseball, golf, hockey ) have numerous moments where the game is halted. At this point, analysis and replays can provide information to the viewer. Games like rugby, soccer, road racing, sailing, have periods of slower pace/less dramatic action which allow the broadcast team to highlight special things.<br /><br />Golf was impossible to watch, until TV made it work. Sailing is great to participate in, just too far away from fans until TV was able to focus on the pinch points and 3d modelling was able to show the strategy from a bird's eye view. Same with motor racing.<br /><br />It would be very interesting to see what a sports broadcast team would suggest to alter the AT format to increase its appeal as an e-sport.<br /><br />Knug Lidihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08168621175894976018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1966268702453044660.post-41029454571035485222014-08-18T10:35:28.002-07:002014-08-18T10:35:28.002-07:00Unfortunately Eve PvP is terrible and even worse t...Unfortunately Eve PvP is terrible and even worse to watch. Is it fun for the people participating, sure it is, you are making stuff go boom. But the reality of the situation is lock, orbit, shoot. Just look at the games that you have linked pics of that lend themselves to being E-sports, there is more visual depth, the ability to broadcast down to the player supports it and it doesn't take a lot of time to understand what you are looking at i.e. First AT I watched I was listening to commentators say things like "There's just a kitsune and a hyena against a Vindicator and an Ashimmu" and I had no clue what it even meant. At that time I'd been playing Eve for a year" .. vs ... man with assault rifle kills other teams player.<br /><br />CCP needs to drop the AT and focus on creating a title that will keep the COMPANY in business, not just focus on Eve.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1966268702453044660.post-77102026192355117412014-08-18T09:13:12.090-07:002014-08-18T09:13:12.090-07:00I'd agree if it weren't for null-sec.com&#...I'd agree if it weren't for null-sec.com's 3d match viewer.<br /><br />In all actuality, I think EVE as e-sport would be leagues more compelling if the live feed was done in a similar in-client look. Rewatching the matches play out in the 3d space, you can really see the masters rise above the amateurs. <br /><br />In a greater e-sport rant, I really believe the medium needs to transcend the youtube/broadcast methodology and use the interactivity of the client instead. Highlighted broadcasts with experienced commentators is nice, but there is no reason why the true fan can't "see what the e-athlete sees".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16512094210839495098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1966268702453044660.post-81727818688623235532014-08-18T06:13:47.200-07:002014-08-18T06:13:47.200-07:00Just like regular in-game...it's all IFR (Inst...Just like regular in-game...it's all IFR (Instrument Flight Rules).Cromwell Savagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1966268702453044660.post-61595493217852046992014-08-18T04:59:57.459-07:002014-08-18T04:59:57.459-07:00"Can we make Eve Online Tournaments fun to wa..."Can we make Eve Online Tournaments fun to watch for non-Eve Online players?"<br /><br />First AT I watched I was listening to commentators say things like "There's just a kitsune and a hyena against a Vindicator and an Ashimmu" and I had no clue what it even meant. At that time I'd been playing Eve for a year.<br /><br />Not only do you need to enjoy watching spreadsheets but you also need a pretty sound knowledge of Eve ships to enjoy it, otherwise much of the commentary is meaningless babble.<br />Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.com