Wednesday, March 25, 2015

This is Why We Cannot Be Told About Nice Things

So that is Fanfest over. Back in the UK for a couple of days before heading back to the sandpit. I want to talk about a couple of things at Fanfest which made me, well....

No names here, you know who you are. This is why CCP are so scared to tell us anything and seriously dumbs down some of their presentations. Here is a conversation I had at the Party on Top of the World.

Person - So did you enjoy Fanfest?
Me - Absolutely. It was brilliant. You?
Person - Well, not so much with CCP destroying wormhole space and all that!
Me - WHAT? I never heard this, whats happening?
Person - They are adding local to wormholes.
Me - What? I cannot believe that. CCP know that will be against everything wormholes stand for. When did they say this?
Person - Well they didn't. But those new structures will add local to wormholes.
Me - What? Where did you hear that?
Person - Well didn't hear it as such, but.....

After a bit more questioning I got to the thought process of this corp who were all convinced that local would be added to wormholes. They were all really upset!

1. The Observatory Array is all about intelligence gathering.
2. Local chat is a good source of intelligence gathering.
3. Ergo, the observatory array will add local chat to wormholes.

Nothing I said could convince this guy otherwise. Even when I used the same thought process that they had used to show there was potential for the new assembly rays to construct space kittens with fricking laser beams and ruin Eve, he still did not see it.

Even though he admitted CCP had not even mentioned local chat at any of the structures presentations or roundtables his group were 110% convinced this would happen and destroy WH space. When asked if this very worried corp (who are utterly convinced that CCP are going to ruin their game) posed the question at the roundtable which was right after, no, they didn't go. They went to watch the Eve Valkyrie competition and thought it best to whine on the forums.

My wingman even pointed out some sections of the Dev Blog. They mention THREE times that these are high level ideas that need a lot of work and feedback.

Even CCP Ybe.... Yybi.., Ytt,,,, CCP The French Dude said....

"Observatory Arrays focus on intelligence gathering and disruption tools, like tampering with Star Map filters, D-scan disruption, ship intelligence disruption, player tracking capabilities or being able to pinpoint cloak users"

And from the specific Observatory Arrays and Gates Thread....

"We are planning on some of the structure to be placed in W-space yes, the exact type and numbers are up to discussion based on the gameplay consequences they are going to have there. It all depends if we feel they're going to negatively impact this area of space or spice up gameplay.
Edit: and I'm referring to all the structures here, not only Observatory Arrays and Gates."

A bit later at the party I was talking to a member of CSM X. I told them this story and they said they had someone say something very similar.

CSM X'r - What?
Person - Fozzie said they are going to look at the roles of supercarrieres. Therefore he's going to turn my Nyx into a link ship.
CSM X'r - Riiiiiiiiiight........

Its quiet worrying that we jump to these conclusions. Actually if you spoke to Fozzie, one example he gave (of some high-level brainstorming) was like Battlestar Gallactica. In the middle of the battle using massive flax cannons to defend other ships. Now I bet as some super pilots read this they are jumping to conclusions again. Oh no! Fozzie is going to turn my Nyx into a point-defence ship! IT IS THE END OF EVE!!!!!1!!1!!!!

All this is going to negatively impact Fanfest. Anyone remember Fanfest 2013? The one after the original PoS rage? We heard bugger all that year because of the hassle CCP got from players following 2012. So please, stop jumping to conclusions and flying off in a rage. Stop a dev, ask them the question and smile when they look at you if you are trying to troll them with your question!


  1. You've pretty much surmised why I rarely visit the EVE-O forums or even smaller forums like FHC or really read anything to do with EVE other then direct CCP sources and a few bloggers I trust not to be idiots.

    Reading comprehension is apparently really low amongst some EVE players while at the same time the need to fear monger is quite high too. It doesn't make for a good combination ^_^

    1. Actually, good reading skills really help when you're anomaly hunting!

  2. WH people will hate the new structure because there won't be any forcefield, they can't count how many pilots are active and what they are flying, there undock can get bubbled, etc...

    They will whine they don't want silly docking game when POS game are as bad...

    I hope CCP doesn't care get ride of those flipping POSes as soon as possible.

    1. That is the very reason why they added mooring. Because docking in a local less environment is a big loss of functionaliteit. You can not see if People are online, assembling a Fleet and in wich direction they alinea. Besides dockingames succes, that is the main reason wholers do not like thera.

    2. Also you seem to have forgotten that they lost their csm representative to the grond. Hence no trust can and will be given to ccp and gooncsm.

    3. Mooring, is it for any ship or just capitals? I assumed it was just capital.

    4. i got the impression in the roundtable that it was for any ship.
      They were not sure how to do it yet though.
      In any case it would be needed in wh for every one and any ship.

  3. You still sure those people weren't trolling you?
    The idea of local in WH space is so ridiculous that even if CCP puts up a youtube video where every single dev repeats it I wouldn't believe it until I am actually in a wormhole and verified it.

    Second: OMG they are removing cloaking from teh game, might as well quit the game now... (based on your mention of the possibility to pinpoint cloaked ships.)

  4. Can I have their stuff?

  5. I heared a different rumour. Null will lose local and the observatory structure could bring it back.

  6. Some people have a hard time getting their logic straight.

    I've seen this line of thought, and is actually logic (if extreme and unlikely):
    1, Local is not just a chat tool. It's main purpose is a warning that people enters system
    2, Observatory Arrays will be able to notice cloaked ships hence serve as Local in the early warning part

    And yes, we do not know enough to form an opinion yet. But that hardly ever stops people. The Jump to Conclusions Mats sold well last year.